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Glossary

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  • Blurbs are one-sentence summaries of the news story.
    • Altblurbs, labelled alt1, alt2, etc., are alternative suggestions to cover the same story.
    • A target article, bolded in text, is the focus of the story. Each blurb must have at least one such article, but you may also link non-target articles.
  • Articles in the Ongoing line describe events getting continuous coverage.
  • The Recent deaths (RD) line includes any living thing whose death was recently announced. Consensus may decide to create a blurb for a recent death.

All articles linked in the ITN template must pass our standards of review. They should be up-to-date, demonstrate relevance via good sourcing and have at least an acceptable quality.

Nomination steps

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  • Make sure the item you want to nominate has an article that meets our minimum requirements and contains reliable coverage of a current event you want to create a blurb about. We will not post about events described in an article that fails our quality standards.
  • Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated). Do not add sections for new dates manually – a bot does that for us each day at midnight (UTC).
  • Create a level 4 header with the article name (==== Your article here ====). Add (RD) or (Ongoing) if appropriate.
Then paste the {{ITN candidate}} template with its parameters and fill them in. The news source should be reliable, support your nomination and be in the article. Write your blurb in simple present tense. Below the template, briefly explain why we should post that event. After that, save your edit. Your nomination is ready!
  • You may add {{ITN note}} to the target article's talk page to let editors know about your nomination.

The better your article's quality, the better it covers the event and the wider its perceived significance (see WP:ITNSIGNIF for details), the better your chances of getting the blurb posted.

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  • When the article is ready, updated and there is consensus to post, you can mark the item as (Ready). Remove that wording if you feel the article fails any of these necessary criteria.
  • Admins should always separately verify whether these criteria are met before posting blurbs marked (Ready). For more guidance, check WP:ITN/A.
    • If satisfied, change the header to (Posted).
    • Where there is no consensus, or the article's quality remains poor, change the header to (Closed) or (Not posted).
    • Sometimes, editors ask to retract an already-posted nomination because of a fundamental error or because consensus changed. If you feel the community supports this, remove the item and mark the item as (Pulled).

Voicing an opinion on an item

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Format your comment to contain "support" or "oppose", and include a rationale for your choice. In particular, address the notability of the event, the quality of the article, and whether it has been updated.

Please do...

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  3. Tell about problems in articles if you see them. Be bold and fix them yourself if you know how, or tell others if it's not possible.

Please do not...

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  1. Add simple "support!" or "oppose!" votes without including your reasons. Similarly, curt replies such as "who?", "meh", or "duh!" are not helpful. A vote without reasoning means little for us, please elaborate yourself.
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  3. Accuse other editors of supporting, opposing or nominating due to a personal bias (such as ethnocentrism). We at ITN do not handle conflicts of interest.
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  6. Use ITN as a forum for your own political or personal beliefs. Such comments are irrelevant to the outcome and are potentially disruptive.

Suggesting updates

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There are two places where you can request corrections to posted items:

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March 19

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Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Law and crime


Arrest of Ekrem İmamoğlu

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Article: Ekrem İmamoğlu (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Turkish Police arrest the Mayor of Istanbul, , on allegation of corruption and terrorism, sparking protests in Istanbul and in other places in Turkey (Post)
Alternative blurb: Ekrem İmamoğlu, the Mayor of Istanbul, is arrested by the Turkish Police, sparking protests in Turkey
News source(s): [1] [2]
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Notable for ITN! SymphonyWizard72 (talk) 11:38, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

However, my blurb might not be good enough? (First time posting ITN candidate), please add altblurb instead of support/oppose, thank you! SymphonyWizard72 (talk) 11:39, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@SymphonyWizard72:, I fixed the blurb. History6042😊 (Contact me) 12:15, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for now, not a nat'l leader. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 15:44, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Surely another blow to democracy in Turkey, a framing in that light and in context of the upcoming elections may help. Gotitbro (talk) 16:13, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support notability but oppose on current quality This is the strongest politician in opposition to Erdoğan, and favourite to win the next Istanbul election which is widely seen as the last step before running the country (Istanbul is one of the world's largest cities and still is and has been of significant global importance for centuries, so this should be unsurprising). However this should have a Arrest of Ekrem İmamoğlu article explaining in detail the quasi-legal justification and the ramifications of such a move, including the political science behind the democratic erosion. Abcmaxx (talk) 16:45, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on notability Sure, an arrest of a mayor is not sufficiently notable in and of itself, but if it is generating mass protests and wide-scale coverage in global sources, then it can fit the bill. Just as equally, the death of a woman in police custody or a man being murdered on the street by police, in and of itself, would not not be featured on ITN. However, those kind of events can become eligible once it generates both (a) global reaction in the RS and (b) mass protest. Newspapers across all seven continents are covering these protests in depth, just as they did in those examples, so both those criteria are made out here. FlipandFlopped 17:37, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on notability per Abcmaxx and Flipandflopped - this represents a massive crackdown on the remaining opposition to Erdogan, which IMO is notable. However, oppose on quality given there's no standalone article and the update to İmamoğlu's own article is brief. The Kip (contribs) 17:47, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

March 18

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Armed conflicts and attacks

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Science and technology


RD: Fedor Malykhin

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Article: Fedor Malykhin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): RTVI
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Russian ice hockey player. Article seems short but adequate. The Kip (contribs) 03:12, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Ready) Assassination attempt on Hassan Sheikh Mohamud

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Article: Attempted assassination of Hassan Sheikh Mohamud (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Al-Shabaab militants attack a convoy carrying the president of Somalia Hassan Sheikh Mohamud (pictured) near the palace complex Villa Somalia in capital Mogadishu, killing at least 10 people and leaving 20 others injured. (Post)
News source(s): idilnews
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Obviously notable enough for ITN. ArionStar (talk) 14:40, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wait/weak support - slightly short, but IMO, it just barely passes quality criteria as there isn't too much info out yet. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 16:00, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wait/Support - Very notable but lack of a good article, I'd hold out and wait for more information regarding the attack. Thesogra (talk) 16:07, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not ready: Only 2 lines of prose on the attack itself. MT(710) 16:54, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support on notability. BilboBeggins (talk) 21:11, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Al-Shabaab has been making attempts and attacks for years but they don't amount to much when they fail like this. Somalia has been a failed state for even longer due its civil war and so its pirates and warlords naturally generate lots of violence and chaos. It's yet another ongoing armed conflict which we should link generically in Ongoing rather than trying to cover every incident. Andrew🐉(talk) 23:14, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    An attempted assasination of the sitting President that killed ten people anyways is not like “every other incident,” Andrew. The Kip (contribs) 23:23, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Al-Shabaab have tried to assassinate him several times before. If they succeed then maybe it's significant but yet another failure is not. Andrew🐉(talk) 23:35, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Source?
Also, If they succeed then maybe it's significant - you’ve absolutely got to be kidding me. In what world is the assassination of a sitting, internationally-recognized President not significant? I’ve had my disagreements with your logic before but this is on a wholly different level. The Kip (contribs) 23:44, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To be fair, our article lists 2012, 2013, and 2014 attempts, with the only apparent fatalities being 8 in 2012. Technically several times, but this is the most deadly and after a 10-year gap. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 00:02, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Patar knight I'm clarifying successful assassinations - Andrew seemed to imply that Mohamud actually getting killed by Al-Shabaab would only "maybe" be notable, which is an utterly absurd premise. The Kip (contribs) 02:36, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support an attempt on the life of a head of state that also caused collateral casualties. Scuba 00:01, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support on notability – assassination attempt on a head of state, the fact that it happened in Sub-Saharan Africa doesn't make it any less notable, and we shouldn't cave in to systemic bias. Also, I'm strongly doubting the claim that these happen "daily". Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 00:03, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality Way too little content at this point for what should be a significant event. Masem (t) 00:17, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • Still not ready. There are three sentences specifically related to the event, the rest is background and the reactions section kudzu that doesn't help explain the event further. Way too little practical content here. Masem (t) 12:34, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Attempted assassination of a world leader, regardless of what country he's the leader of Dyaquna (talk) 00:18, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
QalasQalas (talk) 02:39, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
oppose If they didn't miss then it is notable, unfortunately for the newsfeed they missed.Sportsnut24 (talk) 03:46, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, quality seems good enough now, can be improved further though
Kowal2701 (talk) 10:14, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Wlamir Marques

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Article: Wlamir Marques (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 ArionStar (talk) 01:26, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Antonio Gasalla

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Article: Antonio Gasalla (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 ArionStar (talk) 01:26, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Abu Ishaq al-Houweny

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Article: Abu Ishaq al-Houweny (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Egypt Today AJ Arabic
Credits:

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article needs a lot of work. MT(710) 09:14, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support per nom article needs better work
QalasQalas (talk) 18:09, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose and question why this article even exists. Scuba 00:31, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Scu ba He's got a fairly long article on the Arabic Wikipedia (hence the header expansion tag), but it also seems mostly unsourced. The Kip (contribs) 02:49, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Attack on Gaza Strip

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Article: March 2025 Israeli attacks on the Gaza Strip (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Israel launches a surprise attack on the Gaza Strip, killing more than 400 Palestinians. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Israel launches an unexpected attack on the Gaza Strip, reportedly killing more than 400 Palestinians and ending the Gaza war ceasefire before its expiration.
News source(s): TIME, Al-Jazeera
Credits:

Nominator's comments: While Gaza war should probably be placed in ongoing, a single event that kills 300400 people is notable in its own right. This should be evaluated independently of the ongoing nom below. VR (Please ping on reply) 06:37, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Also the Gaza war main article should be added back to the ongoing 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 10:03, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support reported by most if not all sources Loqiical (talk) 07:45, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The blurb and article take the position that this was a "surprise attack" and blame Israel for breaking the ceasefire. My impression is that there is fault on both sides and the resumption of fighting is not surprising. As this is a contentious topic, we must be quite rigorous in establishing an even-handed, NPOV statement. As the conflict has been ongoing for some time, putting the entry back in Ongoing would be the easiest way of doing that. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:59, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: Saying that Israel launched a surprise attack does not violate NPOV because, regardless of one's opinion on who's at fault, Israel did launch a surprise attack. MT(710) 09:09, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Refusal to accept a respectable source such as the BBC demonstrates why this topic is so toxic and intractable. Consider this AP report. This states that "Many Palestinians said they had expected a return to war when talks over the second phase of the ceasefire did not begin as scheduled in early February. ... But since that ceasefire ended two weeks ago, the sides have not been able to agree on a way forward with a second phase aimed at releasing the 59 remaining hostages" So, the first phase of the ceasefire expired weeks ago and, as the second phase has not been agreed, hostilities have resumed as expected. How is this surprising? Andrew🐉(talk) 11:59, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The umbrage was with you saying "well this source that has come under increasing scrutiny for violating its own neutrality rules says" to make your point, not the statement that the attack in hindsight was unsurprising. Had you started out with the AP source and the body of text cited, there would not be any issue. Anyway Support blurb Mount Patagonia (talkcontributions) 12:52, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    A general sense of depair for a complete breakdown of ceasefire does not really speak about the unexpected nature of this attack.
    And sources can be reliable while still being biased. The war has been going for more than a year now and the divergence of coverage between media sources and scholarly literature would be apparent to anyone who has followed these sources. BBC's bias does not mean that it is to be rejected outright but its neutrality or lack thereof should be questioned especially in such contexts. Gotitbro (talk) 03:33, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    the divergence of coverage between media sources and scholarly literature
    Not to fully dispute your point, but what this tells me is that media and scholars have different biases, not simply that the media is biased. It’d be wise to treat no sources around such a contentious conflict, even scholars, as truly unbiased, or at least those with any degree of subjectivity in conclusions - some things with hard numbers are straightforward. The Kip (contribs) 05:11, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, sources can be biased but there is a reason secondary [scholarly] sources are preferred to primary news reports on enwiki wherever possible. Reliability and bias different things, and we are as biased as our sources secondary sources are. No one is disputing the reliability of the BBC here but the siginificant criticism it has received for its coverage of this conflict (including internal dissension) is something that indeed needs to be given due consideration if undue weightage is being assigned to it to argue contentious points. Gotitbro (talk) 13:33, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support, possibly with ALT1 to avoid concerns about surprise and to provide an updated death toll (Reuters). TheDragonFire (talk) 14:31, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding "surprise" - international news sources, Israeli news sources, and even the Israeli military say it was a surprise attack. starship.paint (talk / cont) 15:16, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  1. The Independent - full statement from the Israeli military ... "The preemptive offensive plan was kept in closed circles in the IDF to create an element of surprise and deception"
  2. Associated Press - "surprise wave of airstrikes plunged Palestinians back into a nightmare they had hoped might be behind them."
  3. NPR - "surprise wave of overnight strikes"
  4. Le Monde - "The surprise attack shattered a period of relative calm"
  5. Axios - "The Israeli official ... said the IDF kept the operational plan top secret within a relatively small circle in order to surprise Hamas."
  6. The Times of Israel - "Israel’s surprise attack on the Gaza Strip, which ended a two-month ceasefire."
  7. Israel Hayom - "Military officials confirm the plan to resume combat operations was deliberately kept compartmentalized to create a tactical surprise that Hamas was unprepared to counter ... the surprise offensive"
  8. Israel National News "the surprise attack in the Gaza Strip."
  9. Jerusalem Post (Israeli news source) "The surprise attack was kept a secret even among most levels of the IDF to maximize the element of surprise."
  10. ynetnews.com (Israeli news source) "Military officials said the surprise attack ... The IDF said ... a surprise attack"

Hope that the above addresses the concerns about "surprise". starship.paint (talk / cont) 15:16, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe "unexpected"? ArionStar (talk) 15:21, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not perfect but not opposed either. starship.paint (talk / cont) 15:43, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - major development in Israel-Palestine conflict. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 15:58, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per others, with either "surprise" or "unexpected" being fine, IMO. Per starship.paint, multiple RS describe the event as being a "surprise attack", but on the other hand, per Andrew, AP reports on a general resumption of hostilities as having been expected by Palestinians. Regardless, this is a significant and tragic development in the Gaza War. ArkHyena (it/its) 17:38, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support ALT1 More precise and also includes relevant context about the end of the ceasefire agreement, which I think is a big part of the story. I'm also fine if "surprise" is used instead of "unexpected", but I think the blurb should include that this effectively ends the ceasefire agreement as ALT1 does. FlipandFlopped 18:48, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - surprise in blurb is simplest. I'd be tempted to note ceasefire violation, given the very unexpected and particular brutal attack. Nfitz (talk) 21:07, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, and "surprised" in blurb is consistent with RS. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 22:04, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support A blurb is preferable to simply putting the war back in ongoing, based on the 'renewal' of hostilities marked by this event. It is also a single incident of large-scale warfare, in comparison to the large-overall but smaller day-by-day nature of the war itself. As for the wording, "surprise" per RS - and because we could probably all say we expected hostilities to resume, but perhaps not in this surprising way. Kingsif (talk) 22:36, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per others. Seems like a near-universal consensus to post; what's the holdup? Morgan695 (talk) 22:47, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted by Patar knight, 23:29, 18 March 2025. Natg 19 (talk) 23:46, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    For the record, I used a modified version of ALT1, since most commenters noted the end of the ceasefire as a key element. I avoided using "surprise" or "unexpected" since our article and the sources here largely referred to "surprise" in the context of operational secrecy rather than this particular outcome being unexpected or particularly deceitful. Usage generally by RS while common was also not so high that it would be an essential descriptor. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 23:49, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Good blurb! ArionStar (talk) 01:02, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    While I think the current blurb works fine, would like to note that sources noting military secrecy also allude/refer to how unexpected this attack was. Ceasefire talks still being seriously considered (at least in the media) till this point. Gotitbro (talk) 03:42, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    And this is what the lead of our article says at this time: "On 18 March 2025, Israel launched a surprise attack on the Gaza Strip effectively ending the 2025 Gaza war ceasefire. Israel's attack killed more than 400 Palestinians, including 263 women and children, making it the deadliest day for Palestinians in the Gaza war, according to the Gaza Health Ministry." Gotitbro (talk) 03:46, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I endorse Patar knight's perceptive posting as I was thinking myself that the surprise was tactical/operational rather than political/strategic. Isarel's focus seems to be eliminating the remaining Hamas leadership and it seems that about 5 of them were killed in those strikes. The BBC reports that "Netanyahu calls strikes on Gaza 'only the beginning'" and so the war is ongoing again. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:00, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose It should be added to the blurb that this attack from Israel is due to Hamas breaking their side of the ceasefire agreement after not releasing the hostages as promised. viridianwindow (talk) 17:12, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Ready) Ongoing: Gaza war

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Article: Gaza war (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): Associated Press
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: resumption of hostilities Loqiical (talk) 03:18, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

full credit to RockinJack18 (original nominator), and Monk of Monk Hall, Pachu Kannan and Cdjp1 as some of the major contributors of the past month Loqiical (talk) 03:27, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support The ceasefire is clearly over and Israel's bombardment of the Gaza strip has resumed. We can wait for another day if we want, to see if there is a sudden reversal and somehow Hamas and Israel agree to enter Phase 2. But that strikes me as unlikely to happen anytime soon, given the sheer death toll of Israel's strikes (200+). FlipandFlopped 05:26, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This comment was before the blurb was nominated; agree with below that we should wait for blurb to roll off, then we can add it. FlipandFlopped 00:55, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support but wait like 12 hours just to make sure it’s a full invasion Ion.want.uu (talk) 07:59, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support Don't know how to feel learning about this major news update via Wikipedia ping. But, considering RS like The Guardian are saying "Israel shatters Gaza ceasefire", seems enough to bring it to this section of Wikipedia. -- Cdjp1 (talk) 11:15, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support the ceasefire was over and the article widely covered, WP:ITN.
QalasQalas (talk) 04:34, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

*Weak oppose. I'd wait until there is a renewed campaign for a few more days, since stuff like this always happens during ceasefires. 675930s (talk) 12:55, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support: It's a new offensive. Scuba 13:02, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ongoing: 2025 Shabelle offensive

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Article: 2025 Shabelle offensive (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): [3]
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Offensive started late Feb. Bremps... 18:21, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose The article does have impressive and detailed day-to-day coverage, which many articles fail to achieve under WP:ONGOING. However, almost all of the coverage is from local or relatively obscure sources. To merit an ongoing placement on the Main page, we'd need to see consistent coverage from a global array of prominent reliable sources. There are a few sources of this type cited in the target article, but these are mostly about tangential issues and not the offensive itself (e.g. BBC articles about Trump's foreign policy in Somalia, or the Somali President meeting with a foreign leader). FlipandFlopped 19:43, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose although the article is being updated at a rapid rate, it is almost solely by User:RowanJ LP and therefore, I believe, it fails WP:ONGOING. Scuba 01:15, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

March 17

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Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Politics and elections


(New) 2025 Macedonian anti-corruption protests

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Articles: 2025 Macedonian anti-corruption protests (talk · history · tag) and Kočani nightclub fire (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Anti-corruption protests erupt after a nightclub fire (damage pictured) in Kočani, North Macedonia, kills at least 59 people and injures more than 155 others. (Post)
News source(s): BBC News, ABC News, U.S. News, The Guardian
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Similar situation to the Serbian anti-corruption protests after the Novi Sad railway station canopy collapse. Protest have turned violent, and no they haven't resulted in a change of government but several local officials have been arrested. Obviously this if posted should replace the current post regarding the tragedy. The 4 sources in this nomination can be used to expand the article as slightly short at the moment. Abcmaxx (talk) 09:47, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Wait to see if the protests are enduringly notable and have continued coverage, or if this was just a one-off rally in protest of the incompetence surrounding the fire. Lots of accidents and natural disasters will attract criticism and backlash against those responsible, but for something like a fire or rooftop collapse, we'd want to see it transforming into an enduring protest movement for it to meet the ITN threshold. FlipandFlopped 17:59, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted to RD; blurb discussion ongoing) RD/Blurb: John Hemingway (RAF officer)

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Article: Paddy Hemingway (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  John "Paddy" Hemingway (pictured), the last of The Few, dies at 105 (Post)
News source(s): BBC, Daily Telegraph, Irish Times
Credits:

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Last surviving pilot of the WWII Battle of Britain. He was shot down four times during the war. Lived to be 105. Ad Orientem (talk) 02:19, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support sad tho that we’re at this point that the ww2 vets are starting to dwindle Ion.want.uu (talk) 08:01, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb this is a very anglo-centric view to make this into a news story; he was not the last WW2 veteran, and was one of many who took part in one of many WW2's notable battles. Crudely put, this is essentially WP:OLDMANDIES and is not a remarkable story; all of RD nominations are of notable persons since they have articles. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:00, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I would also add this is very much a case of WP:1E; fine for RD but certainly not a blurb. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:08, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"Anglo-Centric" is a strange criticism to make on what's deemed newsworthy for an English-language website, never mind that he was Irish. Also, the Few are world-renowned for defeating the Germans in one of the biggest air campaigns in history, which is considered a turning point in the war. You can't call this an unremarkable story in any good faith. 675930s (talk) 11:31, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Abcmaxx: "Anglo-centric"? People of many nations were members of The Few. Hemingway himself was Irish. No claim that he was the last WWII veteran has been made. The passing of the last of The Few, as well as the last D-Day veteran, should be properly honoured, as should the passing of the last WWII veteran. Mjroots (talk) 10:09, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      The vast majority of The Few were from anglophone countries, i.e. former British Empire. I stand by my comment, and blurbing this will would be to pander to anglophone patriotic sentiments, not because this gentleman's death is encyclopedicly more notable than the many other RD nominations. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:17, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb - At this point, the "western bias" is just being used to oppose anything related to the west. EF5 12:39, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support RD No one would suggest we post every pilot of this group who died, so the exception here is solely due to him outliving the others. This is not typically a valid reason to blurb. Maybe we would post the last known WWII vet as an exception, but the last vet of a subset of a subset of a subset is an unusual suggestion. GreatCaesarsGhost 14:42, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Support for blurb (I'm the OP) It is true we do not typically post last survivors of individual battles, but this is a bit different. The battle of Britain was not so much a battle as a prolonged campaign of both military and terror bombing. One where not just the war, but the survival of civilization itself hung in the balance. This was the only point where Hitler really was on the cusp of winning the war. If not for this man and the other "Few" I do not care to think about what the world would look like today. Yeah, I think that warrants notice at ITN. That aside, I believe consensus exists that this is at least ready for RD. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:14, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support blurb I think this just about rises to the levels needed for ITN. And whilst it's a sad story, it is at least not a disaster, weather issue, space probe, mass killing or an election. Black Kite (talk) 15:41, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb neither meets death as the news topic, nor as a major figure. This is literally old man (who happened to outlast thousands of others that fought in WW2) dies". Masem (t) 15:46, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Support RD, oppose blurb, not a WW2 major figure. ArionStar (talk) 16:15, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support blurb - per Ad Orientem
Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 15:59, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ready as RD ArionStar (talk) 01:08, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Naseer Soomro

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Article: Naseer Soomro (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Tribune
Credits:

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 Pakistan's tallest man. Ainty Painty (talk) 16:18, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Lee Shau-kee

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Article: Lee Shau-kee (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): RTHK
Credits:
Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Hong Kong business magnate, founder of Henderson Land Development240F:7A:6253:1:E096:1180:9609:128C (talk) 14:53, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ecological disaster in Zambia

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Article: 2025 Sino-Metals Leach Zambia dam disaster (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Zambia, a dam breach contaminates Kafue River with 50 million liters of acidic waste, causing major ecological damage in the region. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Zambia, a dam at a Chinese-owned copper factory collapses, contaminating the country's most important river with 50 million liters of acidic waste.
News source(s): AP, MSN,
Credits:

 Trepang2 (talk) 06:02, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comments: Looks like a major, life-changing disaster for the country, with local residents and ecologists saying things like "The river died in a single day." The article may need more details and pictures. Trepang2 (talk) 06:05, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Unfortunately, it seems that the event happened on Feb 18, about 1 month ago. Unsure why AP is reporting on this so late. Natg 19 (talk) 06:21, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Al Jazeera had a good on-the-spot report six days ago. The area has a long history of such pollution from the mining industry [4], [5]. So it goes... As the story seems too stale for ITN, DYK should be considered while the article is still new. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:28, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I consider this very significant but unfortunately it is just far too stale to be posted now. Not sure why western news sources have taken a whole month to catch on to this. --SpectralIon 03:49, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The current story appears to be more about the coverup by the Chinese corporation rather than the disaster itself. Gotitbro (talk) 07:42, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. The dam collapse by itself might be stale, but disaster is ongoing and worsens with time, thus not stale, especially given that it's only just being properly reported by media. As for article quality, I believe it's adequate for ITN already. –Jiaminglimjm (talk) 16:49, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Considering its long-term effects, might it be better to nominate this for Ongoing instead? ArkHyena (it/its) 17:39, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Ongoing requires consistent updates. Generally, these are stories which may lack a blurb-worthy event, but which nonetheless are still getting regular updates to the relevant article. In general, articles are not posted to ongoing merely because they are related to events that are still happening. In order to be posted to ongoing, the article needs to be regularly updated with new, pertinent information. Articles whose most recent update is older than the oldest blurb currently on ITN are usually not being updated frequently enough for ongoing status. Natg 19 (talk) 00:03, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    There's no real information on what long-term impacts would be. It's not a particularly large volume of liquid - 50,000 m³. Compare to the 35,200,000,000 m³ in Lake Mead (Hoover dam). Stating the number in Litres just makes it sound very big. And what's the waste - the article is very unclear. Acidic water? It will flush through - presumably quickly the local rainfall. How acidic? It could buffer quickly. Definitely not ongoing. I don't know it's even notable enough, given the lack of human deaths. Seems pretty minor compared to say the (equally underdiscussed) ecological disaster in the Hudson River. Nfitz (talk) 01:59, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The collapse itself happened a month ago, making it stale, and the ongoing aftereffects aren't really a "ITN blurb" thing unless there's a singular moment of elevated importance. The Kip (contribs) 03:02, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

March 16

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RD: Jesse Colin Young

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Article: Jesse Colin Young (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Rolling Stone, The Hollywood Reporter
Credits:
Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Member and lead vocal of The Youngbloods240F:7A:6253:1:B959:F65C:EEA8:F330 (talk) 08:19, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Ready) Stuart Young sworn in

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Article: Stuart Young (politician) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Stuart Young succeeds Keith Rowley to become the next Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago after being elected by the People's National Movement parliamentary caucus, following the resignation of Prime Minister Keith Rowley. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Stuart Young (pictured) is elected by the People's National Movement parliamentary caucus to succeed Keith Rowley as Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago following Rowley’s resignation.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Following the resignation of Keith Rowley, Stuart Young (pictured) is chosen by the People's National Movement parliamentary caucus to become the next Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago.
News source(s): Trinidad and Tobago Newsday, The Gleaner,
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 744cody (talk) 19:57, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support: Well sourced article. Head of state changes are always notable enough regardless of country size. Prodrummer619 (talk) 17:46, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support obvious INTR. Scuba 01:16, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Kočani nightclub fire

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Article: Kočani nightclub fire (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 59 people are killed and more than 155 injured in a nightclub fire (remains of the nightclub pictured) during a concert in Kočani, North Macedonia. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ At least 59 people are killed and more than 155 injured in a nightclub fire (remains of the nightclub pictured) in Kočani, North Macedonia.
News source(s): BBC, CNN
Credits:
Article updated

Nominator's comments: This is one or the deadliest incidents in the country’s history, and the story receives front-page media coverage globally. --Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 11:08, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support Article has expanded enough and is in good shape JustAnAlbo (talk) 11:46, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Munir Shakir

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Article: Munir Shakir (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Tribune
Credits:

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 Ainty Painty (talk) 01:02, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

March 15

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(Posted) RD: Peter Bichsel

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Article: Peter Bichsel (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): FAZ
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Swiss short story writer Grimes2 (talk) 13:06, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support, noting that Bichsel was not merely a short story writer, but probably Switzerland's most prominent and influential contemporary writer. Article is in an OK state, but could be much expanded. Sandstein 15:31, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Slick Watts

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Article: Slick Watts (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

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 Natg 19 (talk) 01:59, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Nita Lowey

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Article: Nita Lowey (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Washington Post
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: Needs a little work. Natg 19 (talk) 01:40, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) US strikes on Yemen

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Article: March 2025 United States attacks in Yemen (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Yemen, 53 are killed and 98 injured after the United States launches large-scale air and naval strikes. (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

Nominator's comments: This is the most significant US military operation in the Middle East since Donald Trump took office, according to Reuters 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 11:42, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2025 South Korean political protests

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Articles: 2024 South Korean martial law crisis (talk · history · tag) and Arrest of Yoon Suk Yeol (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Thousands of South Koreans protest in rival political protests in favour of and against the re-arrest of impeached President Yoon Suk Yeol. (Post)
News source(s): France 24, Straits Times, AP
Credits:

Nominator's comments: The article definitely needs a WP:SIZESPLIT into a protest article given the complexity of this unfolding political drama; two impeachments, one arrest, multiple protests, constitutional and political and perhaps even societal crisis. Protests unusually large in scale although aware this has been an ongoing crisis as well. The article is still titled 2024 however there is no consensus how to split or incorporate the current events (from 2025) into the article. Abcmaxx (talk) 12:13, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose Per the AP, these appear to be mostly peaceful protests, and thus just one of many protests that are happening due to various reasons across the globe. If anything, the story about Yoon Suk Yeol's release and re-arrest is really the headline here but that's relatively old news itself. also consider that there appears to be major overlap between the crisis and the impeachment article that is causing some of the size issues, it doesn't make sense to try to split off these protests (particularly since they aren't generated major conflict themselves) before the duplicated material is removed and some attemtp to eliminate the proseline is handled. Masem (t) 12:29, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Protests don't have to violent to be posted. I would argue that the size and scale of the protests is the significant part here. As for the reorganisation of the article; many different options can be debated but in its current form it's just too long and convoluted and would ideally be resolved with wider consensus regardless of ITN. Abcmaxx (talk) 15:06, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    No, but given how long these have been going for, without neither any real change at the gov't level nor any type of violent action means this is just mostly noise at the larger scale. Comparitively, something like the 2020–2021 Indian farmers' protest which did have a direct impact (in terms of blocking roads and other similar non-violent acts) would be the type of protests that I think we should focus on for ITN, in addition to those that turn violent. — Masem (t) 20:43, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Per Masem; not a defining crisis. Fortuna, Imperatrix Mundi 13:03, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Masem. I actually would support putting 2024 South Korean martial law crisis as Ongoing, as it seems like news keeps coming out about this. Natg 19 (talk) 17:30, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose as this is just a foreshock of incoming decision about Yoon's impeachment by Constitutional Court of Korea. We can post the decision then. Didgogns (talk) 01:10, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per above. Doesn't seem to hold special notability compared to the other aftershocks of the martial law declaration we've posted. The Kip (contribs) 02:56, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2024–present Serbian anti-corruption protests

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Article: 2024–present Serbian anti-corruption protests (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A four-month long anti-corruption protest culminates in the Serbian capital Belgrade. (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian, CNN, AP News, NY Times, Reuters, France 24
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Looks to be the climax of this ongoing protest, reported worldwide. Very large in scale, especially factoring the size of the population; estimated 100,000 people at the protest. Abcmaxx (talk) 07:09, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose I suppose "cumulates" should be "culminates" but such language claiming that this particular event is a decisive climax seem too WP:CRYSTAL. My impression is that the existing regime is unmoved and so it will take more to shift it. As this has been ongoing for months, we should consider an Ongoing entry. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:38, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Corrected to "culminates". Protests don't have to be successful nor finite for us to be able to post them. I would argue that 100,000 people out of a population of 6½ million is quite a feat given it's ~1.5% of the entire population. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:05, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I'd also support ongoing instead. The article is documenting the chronology very well and is being constantly updated. Yesterday's protests were the biggest but they will keep going. --Tone 10:00, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality issues Overall these have been maybe large but seem to be mostly non-violent, but the biggest thing that stands out to me is the quality of the page. First, treating the protests using the infobox that is usually used for wars or armed conflict seems excessive and inappropriate, its framing the protests as a battle rather than being a mostly non-violent protest. Second, the bulk of the article is just proseline which is not at all helpful to try to understand the scale and scope of the event, and none which further supports some of the information in that infobox such as explaining the types of protests used or the police response. I know writing proseline as a start of an event may seem helpful to document it, but we should be able to do far better by this point with a narrative style to explain more how and why the protests developed and what reaction the Serbian govt has had to them in summary rather than day by day. Same applies to the list of people and countries/ctieis at the bottom, with that many people and names, its a sea of blue problem, and we should be trying to summarize these better. Masem (t) 12:37, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Andrew Davidson and Masem: usual, common demonstrations against government, and the article lacks almost complete context. Fortuna, Imperatrix Mundi 13:06, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support an Ongoing as these protests seem to be getting larger and larger as time goes on, with new news coming out of Serbia very often. Yesterday an estimated 20% of Serbia's population went out to Belgrade to protest, so this seems very notable. User:Chorchapu (talk|edits|commons|wiktionary|simple english) 14:45, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as a blurb, noted by BBC to be Serbia's largest-ever protest (a fact which should be included in a blurb). Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ) 20:23, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment – as these are really the largest (so far) in a series of ongoing mass demonstrations, it may be better to nominate this article for Ongoing. ArkHyena (it/its) 22:14, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose until it results in a change of government. 675930s (talk) 07:36, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I can't find any proof that the protestors planned a culmination on that day, and thus this really shouldn't be a blurb. They could very well keep getting larger. I will of course support posting if Vucic resigns, and I'm neutral towards making this ongoing. --SpectralIon 03:55, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Three-part vote:
Oppose on quality per Masem. I respect the detail, but the page is a wall of text right now and not easy to get a simple summation out of.
Weak oppose on notability given some of the arguments above regarding "culmination" being informal.
Support ongoing as that seems like a much more apt place for it to go right now.
The Kip (contribs) 02:55, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) US Severe weather and wildfires

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Article: Tornado outbreak of March 13–16, 2025 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 42 are killed by an intense storm system bringing heavy snow, blowing dust, wildfires, and tornadoes to much of the United States. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ At least 42 are killed as a result of storms and tornadoes in the Midwest and southern United States
News source(s): CBS
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Might be a little early to nominate this and the article does need some heavy work which I'm willing to do over the coming hours. The storm is only halfway done, and later today into tomorrow it's expected to produce an even larger tornado outbreak than it already has. Departure– (talk) 13:33, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wait for the potentially historic storm later today over AL and MS. Multiple fatalities and heavy damage are confirmed across several towns, but it’d be better to include the entire event. EF5 13:35, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
And I’d hardly call one of the largest moderate risks ever issued and the third-ever day 2 high risk “extremely common”. EF5 14:28, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Tylertown, Mississippi has been hit by at least two significant tornadoes and nineteen deaths have been confirmed; the event isn’t even at its peak yet. This is now the deadliest meteorological event in 2025; we posted the LA fires. EF5 20:20, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Welcome to spring in the Midwest. This type of system is extremely common at this time of year in that region and is definitely not unusual. If the results of the front that is supposed to hit later today in the southern states has a much more devasting impact, maybe there's a reason to reconsider, but not with what has happened so far. Masem (t) 13:55, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Masem: 13+ deaths? The first Day 2 high risk since 2012? Only the fifth high risk this decade (see List of Storm Prediction Center high risk days#2020–present)? You say "Extremely common" and "definitely not unusual", but I'm afraid this is more historic than ordinary. Ks0stm (TCGE) 15:50, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Quick comment Not mentioned in the blurb, but the Windmill and 840 Road fire systems were spawned by this, each of which has reached >20,000 acres by now in the <24 hours they've existed. Three deaths were confirmed from blowing dust causing a car crash in Amarillo, Texas. That isn't counting the as-of-yet unknown death toll from last night's tornadoes, let alone those that might happen in the South this morning. Departure– (talk) 14:13, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wait until today's system ends. Changing to Support - pretty large death toll, major outbreak (although not a super outbreak). 3/31 was posted so I don't see how this is much different with multiple intense tors. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 17:05, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Then maybe the article title needs to be changed. It is currently focused on the tornadoes, with some information about other effects. Natg 19 (talk) 05:11, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That would be for a RM, not ITN. EF5 15:50, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Change my support to a proposal of Altblurb I think altblurb should be changed to "Midwest and southern United States" As Natg 19 proposed. Shaneapickle (talk) 21:12, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The altblurb is inaccurate, as while the total death toll is 34, 12 of those were not as a direct result of a tornado and were caused by other aspects of the event. Departure– (talk) 15:01, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I’ve boldly changed it to “storms and tornadoes”; there is zero reason to discount over half of the deaths from the event. EF5 15:06, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Counting all non-tornadic fatalities, this is now the deadliest tornado outbreak in the United States since the December 10, 2021 outbreak, at 34, now beyond the tolls of the March 24 (Rolling Fork) outbreak and the March 31 (Little Rock) outbreaks of 2023, as well as any outbreak of 2022 or 2024. Departure– (talk) 17:24, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We posted December 10, right? I am on mobile and for some reason it mashes together talk page banners to the point where they’re unreadable. EF5 17:41, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
December 10, March 24, and March 31. Nothing in 2024 was posted. Departure– (talk) 19:42, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ah. I think I’ll go write a “weather as usual” essay on weather at ITN/C. This is definitely historic and by no means “ordinary”. I mean, this is deadlier than every event in 2024 and deadlier than the March 24 storm that was posted. EF5 19:44, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Nothing extraordinary. BilboBeggins (talk) 19:06, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per others. Per Departure, this is the deadliest tornadic event in the US in three years. Coverage of the system in media is still recent or ongoing (e.g. at ABC: [10] CBS: [11]). This is a historic event. ArkHyena (it/its) 20:40, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - First EF4 tornado since May 2024 was confirmed just a few minutes ago. This is the first time since May 20, 2013 that a tornado had a 190 mph preliminary wind speed; the 2013 one is currently recognized as (controversially) the most recent EF5 in history. EF5 20:42, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Clearly a major news story, and the article is well-sourced and written. Jusdafax (talk) 21:04, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support In my humble opinion, I do believe that this event is notable and deserving of being featured due to the total destruction caused overall as well as the historic nature of this storm. CaptainGalaxy 22:45, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Support I am usually skeptical towards our imbalanced focus on American weather events relative to the rest of the world, but I acknowledge this is a recordbreaking (and thus unusual) event that has a fairly high death toll. 40+ people killed is quite high. FlipandFlopped 04:28, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - should the 140 injuries from Oklahoma deserve a mention in the blurb? Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 05:02, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment before posting: in the article, the death toll is 42, not 47. It could rise back to that toll but I believe the 47 toll was a misinterpretation by an RS. Departure– (talk) 17:22, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've revised it down to 42. EF5 17:25, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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RD: Manfred Schukowski

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Article: Manfred Schukowski (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NDR (in German)
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: German astronomer and pedagogue with a focus on historic astronomical clocks --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:25, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Dag Solstad

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Article: Dag Solstad (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian: Norwegian writer Dag Solstad dies aged 83
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: Prominent Norwegian writer. Jaguarnik (talk) 21:19, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Virginia Newell

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Article: Virginia Newell (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): MyFOX8
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: American educator and politician. Seems to be well sourced TNM101 (chat) 10:19, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Senate prevents government shutdown

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Article: Second presidency of Donald Trump (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ US senate avoids gov shutdown by passing GOP spending bill. (Post)
News source(s): https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/03/14/congress/senate-passes-government-funding-bill-00231667
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Nominator's comments: Super important espically now with DOGE.
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(Posted) RD: Alan Simpson (American politician)

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Article: Alan Simpson (American politician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Some additional citations needed. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 14:22, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support Article looks good to me. Hungry403 (talk) 23:21, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Lunar eclipse

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Article: March 2025 lunar eclipse (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A total lunar eclipse happens over North and South America (Post)
News source(s): https://www.nbcnews.com/science/space/total-lunar-eclipse-rcna196251
Credits:
Nominator's comments: Nominating this again since the previous nomination happened before the eclipse. Since the eclipse has happened, I feel it is time to nominate it again considering we usually post total solar eclipses. Interstellarity (talk) 11:16, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I have nothing against it. It's a nice event, it's getting some news coverage, and it's been a while since we've covered one of these. Blurp is fine, no need to do anything fancy here. Maybe make it a full sentence (ending with a full stop). Renerpho (talk) 11:28, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • WP:SNOW Close The last nom was not closed for being posted too early, it was closed on account of non-notablity. If editors oppose the close, they should open it rather than making new noms. Gotitbro (talk) 12:05, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Close No, there's still nothing majorly notable about this eclipse that has changed in two days. And really, that's just WP:POINT and disruptive - the previous nomination was closed because it was deemed not notable enough for ITN, not because "it hadn't happened yet". Black Kite (talk) 12:32, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I see no reason to assume bad faith. The timing was one reason why it was opposed in the first nomination (including by myself; and I've now voted support). Renerpho (talk) 12:48, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    One reason why I've changed my mind which I haven't mentioned yet is the large amount of news coverage I see from Europe and elsewhere. Renerpho (talk) 12:54, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I commented on the talk page after the previous comment, but before the discussion was reopened. Since I provided some arguments for support that have not yet been given here, and there has been a relevant reply, I am copying those parts of the discussion here. Renerpho (talk) 10:59, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    It's a pity that we can't discuss this eclipse again. There are quite a few interesting aspects of it emerging in the news today. Like, that it's the first since 1967 to be imaged as a solar eclipse from the lunar surface (by Blue Ghost).[12][13][14] I opposed it yesterday because I didn't see anything unusual about this eclipse (which may not have been an accurate assessment), and because of the timing -- it's not been properly in the news before it happened. Compare this 2014 APOD (and no, as far as I can tell, Chang'e 3 didn't image the 2014 eclipse). Renerpho (talk) 13:21, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
    This would of course have to be added to the article before that fact could be featured in ITN. Renerpho (talk) 13:27, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
    We can and are discussing the eclipse again but the discussion is not very edifying. The point you make about the eclipse being viewed from the moon too is a good one but the nay-sayers are not providing or engaging with such evidence and are making ad hominem arguments instead. This ought to have been a straightforward posting of an uncontroversial scientific event which has attracted much interest but, instead, ITN is gridlocked once again. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:00, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
Oppose and close - per Black Kite. EF5 12:33, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support This was the top read article yesterday beating Mark Carney by a significant margin. This demonstrates that there was lots of interest and coverage of this and mainstream coverage has continued: BBC, NYT, NPR, The Times. There was a lot of showcasing of pictures of the event, showing the "blood moon" and we have plenty too. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:03, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • Its been repeatedly said that we do not consider page views in ITNC significance. Some topics will be popular compared to others which is a significance bias that we dont want to reflect at ITNC. — Masem (t) 12:09, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • You've got it backwards. WP:ITNPURPOSE starts by saying that we should consider what our readers are looking for. WP:ITNSIGNIF and WP:ITNATA indicate that proof of coverage is required and that our personal interests are not adequate evidence. It therefore follows that evidence of coverage and public attention is not just valid but is expected.
In this case, the evidence is that this story about the moon is getting much more attention and coverage than the other story about the moon which we are currently blurbing -- the Athena landing. The latter is over a week old and so is now getting just a small fraction of the attention. The stories are otherwise similar in being related to astronomy and space and so are both quite respectable and encyclopedic in nature. Per WP:ITNPURPOSE, we should now switch from one story to the other to assist our readership and demonstrate Wikipedia's dynamic nature. Andrew🐉(talk) 14:26, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also agree, We need to switch from one moon story to the next every time something occurs and the old one dies down. Shaneapickle (talk) 12:23, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
100% agree with you. Secretlondon (talk) 17:16, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I'd also point out that "we usually post total lunar eclipses" is not true - we have posted 3 out of the last 10, and they all had extra notability factors which this one doesn't appear to have. Black Kite (talk) 10:37, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support This had had the most news coverage for the past few weeks, leading up to it happened, and it is really notable for the fact that ALOT of pictures has been taken, and is also getting news about it even after it happened.
Shaneapickle (talk) 16:34, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also, lasting coverage for a few days … LOL Kingsif (talk) 17:33, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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March 13

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RD: Richard Fortey

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Article: Richard Fortey (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: British paleontologist. Death announced 13 March. Thriley (talk) 01:28, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support His works don't each have a linked footnote-style citation, but they have links to ISBN numbers and all of the citation information you'd expect to find in a footnote if it were linked. Good enough for me and well-cited otherwise. FlipandFlopped 19:53, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2025 Belizean general election

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Article: 2025 Belizean general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The People's United Party, led by Johnny Briceño (pictured), wins the 2025 Belizean general election. (Post)
News source(s): Caribbean National Weekly
Credits:

Article updated
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 Joofjoof (talk) 09:54, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is okay, nothing stands out to me. Secretlondon (talk) 13:31, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support. ITN, article has prose. BilboBeggins (talk) 19:05, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Many red links. ArionStar (talk) 20:36, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
None that I can see, apart from in the box at the bottom. Secretlondon (talk) 13:54, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Removed. Support ArionStar (talk) 11:46, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Demyan Hanul

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Article: Demyan Hanul (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Kyiv Independent, New Voice, Odessa Journal
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former leader of Right Sector in Odesa was assassinated in broad daylight. Somewhat big story in Ukraine at the moment, didn't have a page before I made it a few minutes ago. Scuba 16:01, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Raúl Grijalva

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Article: Raúl Grijalva (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBS, NBC
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American congressman who represented Arizona's 7th district at the time of his death  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 22:16, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support Now gtg. -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:42, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Looks like the page has been improved substantially these last few days, but I still wouldn't say it's ready yet. 5 sentences have a CN tag, and most of the political campaigns section is unsourced. I'll see if I can find some citations for the last remaining unsourced statements.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 15:46, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've finished citing whatever I could find sources for & removing anything that either could not be verified or seemed out of place in the article. I've also boldly added myself as one of the updaters. @Ad Orientem: when you have time, could you look through the page again to reassess if it's good to go now? Thank you,  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 17:08, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) NHS England to be discontinued

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Article: National Health Service (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Keir Starmer, PM of the United Kingdom declares that the England sector of the NHS is going to be discontinued. (Post)
News source(s): [15] [16] [17] [18]
Credits:
Nominator's comments: This is important as it might make it easier for people in england to get healthcare more easier. Shaneapickle (talk) 19:04, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose The blurb is a bit misleading. NHS England, the entity that oversees the NHS, is being discontinued, and its operations shifted to the Department of Health and Social Care. The NHS is the system of public health care in the UK. The NHS itself in England isn't going anywhere. It's a typical reorganization that doesn't put anything particularly new on the table. Departure– (talk) 19:12, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Departure. Estreyeria (talk) 19:16, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Subnational reorganization. We have not posted large restructurings in the USA under DOGE, so I don't believe we should here.
-insert valid name here- (talk) 20:29, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) RD: Sofia Gubaidulina

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Article: Sofia Gubaidulina (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Gramophone, Boosey and Hawkes, New York Times, NPR
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Legendary classical composer Sofia Gubaidulina has passed away at the age of 93. A leading voice in modern classical music, and one of the most important female composers in history, she is probably worth a blurb discussion. That said, Kaija Saariaho was the obvious female classical music death blurb from this generation. NorthernFalcon (talk) 16:21, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Wait - will support once the citations are fixed. Piano section and works section are unsourced. I added what I could find but needs more work.
  • As an update, piano section now largely deleted as was seemingly uncited OR /an essay on a single work. Leaning towards supporting but needs a bit more attention on the lead and ref formatting and have spun out the necessarily long but hard to fully cite "works section"; hold on :) Ceoil (talk) 03:00, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) March 13/14th Lunar Eclipse

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Article: March 2025 lunar eclipse (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Lunar eclipse to take place on March 14th, starting at 11:57 PM EST on March 13th (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ A total lunar eclipse occurs (pictured) on March 14
News source(s): [19] [20] [21] [22]
Credits:
 Shaneapickle (talk) 00:55, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose and close eclipse doesn't start until 27 hours from now. Departure– (talk) 01:55, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wait until it happens. Bloxzge 025 (talk) 02:52, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
wait until 2:57am UTC on March 14th. Scuba 03:28, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It actually happens at 2:26 AM on march 14th, eastern time, nasa has officially said it Shaneapickle (talk) 12:54, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
totality actually happens* Shaneapickle (talk) 12:56, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, SNOW close - not really any impacts, nor unusually significant.
Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 15:52, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose reigonal at best, not global news worthy Ion.want.uu (talk) 17:04, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose As far as it being "regional", the article says The eclipse will be completely visible over North and South America. But there's insufficient importance to post it *after* it happens; unfortunately ITN isn't equipped to make a short-term posting before the event. 217.180.228.171 (talk) 18:07, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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March 12

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RD: Ron Nessen

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Article: Ron Nessen (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP News
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: White House Press Secretary for Gerald Ford240F:7A:6253:1:69BE:F1A5:5074:731 (talk) 05:18, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Stale) SPHEREx launch

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Article: SPHEREx (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: NASA launches SPHEREx space observatory aboard Falcon 9 rocket to study galaxies. (Post)
News source(s): CNN, The Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: The launch of a new space observatory seems to be major science news, comparable to the likes of Hubble and James Webb telescopes. Brandmeistertalk 08:36, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait The launch doesn't seem especially interesting and the article only has a brief sentence about it. As the instrument is designed for a specific survey, rather than being a general purpose instrument like Hubble, it seems better to wait on some results. Also the launch put up a new constellation called PUNCH (Polarimeter to Unify the Corona and Heliosphere) which also has a specific mission. But again there's nothing much to say about this launch phase. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:42, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) RD: Mark Klein

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Article: Mark Klein (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Electronic Frontier Foundation
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: AT&T whistleblower wizzito | say hello! 15:11, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Needs more citations and prose. Jusdafax (talk) 21:13, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2025 Beledweyne hotel attack

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Article: 2025 Beledweyne hotel attack (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A 24-hour siege at a hotel in Beledweyne, Hiran, Somalia, results in more than 15 civilians and 6 attackers being killed and over 100 Somali Parliament members urging president Hassan Sheikh Mohamud (pictured) to resign. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ A deadly 24-hour siege at a hotel in Beledweyne, Somalia, leaves more than 15 civilians and 6 attackers dead, later 100 Somali Parliament members call for President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud's resignation.
Alternative blurb II: ​ More than 15 civilians and 6 attackers are killed in a 24-hour hotel siege in Beledweyne, Somalia, and 100 Somali MPs asked President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud step down.
Alternative blurb III: ​ A hotel siege in Beledweyne, Somalia, claims 21 lives, hundred Somali lawmakers urge President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud to resign.
Alternative blurb IV: ​ At least 15 civilians are killed in an Al-Shabaab attack and siege on a hotel in Beledweyne, Hiran, Somalia.
Alternative blurb V: ​ A 24-hour siege-attack at a hotel in Beledweyne, Hiran, Somalia, results in at least fifteen civilians and all six Al-Shabaab attackers killed.
News source(s): AP Idil News
Credits:

 ArionStar (talk) 22:58, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

QalasQalas (talk) 02:22, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sending love to Somalia! ♥️💙🤍💚 ArionStar (talk) 02:28, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you mate QalasQalas (talk) 09:29, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support significant casualties, might also cause political change. Scuba 03:17, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per above, an already high and still rising death toll with the possibility of causing world leader change. I am also going to pre-emptively support a merge blurb with this blurb if Mohamud resigns. --SpectralIon 03:48, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - significant casualties, large political implication in Somalia. Article looks good enough.
Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 04:27, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support ALT4 only owing to several issues with the other blurbs:
  • The overall death toll of 21+ includes the six Al-Shabaab attackers themselves - we shouldn't count them in the blurb, only the victims of the attack.
  • The MPs simply asking for Mohamud's resignation is not notable by itself, and that aspect is WP:CRYSTAL anyways, considering we don't know if he actually will resign or not. If he does, then we can add it to this blurb as something like "At least 15 civilians are killed in an Al-Shabaab attack and siege on a hotel in Beledweyne, Somalia, later prompting President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud's resignation.," though it would almost certainly be worthy of a separate blurb on its own (as ITN/R). The Kip (contribs) 04:54, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm not seeing any evidence in mainstream news coverage that this is a big deal. It just seems to be a routine insurgency attack which has been crushed by the government. Andrew🐉(talk) 16:32, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Stale) Mikheil Saakashvili convicted

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Article: Mikheil Saakashvili (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A court in capital Tbilisi sentences former president of Georgia Mikheil Saakashvili (pictured) to nine years in prison for embezzlement. (Post)
News source(s): DW Al Jazeera Observador
Credits:

Article needs updating
Nominator's comments: It's the fall of world predidents. ArionStar (talk) 22:16, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
QalasQalas (talk) 09:07, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support per above Ion.want.uu (talk) 17:30, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - A criminal conviction of some random guy? What? Also you spelled presidents wrong, Arion. DotesConks (talk) 04:02, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Oppose This seems to mainly only affect Georgia and somewhat affect Russia and pretty much nowhere else. Even with a pro-western government, it is unlikely that Georgia would ever join on Ukraine's side. Also, these are obviously made-up charges for the purpose of power consolidation, and while some might find that more notable, I personally think it makes it less notable as the former world leader did not commit an actual crime. --SpectralIon 03:52, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Pro-western government? Did you not follow the news in december?Sportsnut24 (talk) 02:41, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Solovyov, Vladimir. "Georgian Elections Present Moscow With a Difficult Choice". Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. Retrieved 6 January 2025.
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(Posted) Swiss federal election

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Articles: Martin Pfister (talk · history · tag) and 2025 Swiss Federal Council election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Martin Pfister wins the 2025 Swiss Federal Council election, defeating Markus Ritter. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Martin Pfister is elected to the Swiss Federal Council.
News source(s): SRF
Credits:

One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
  • I'm not sure if I can leave a support on my own nomination, but in case it helps, all three articles should meet the ITN criteria, especially with regard to being sufficiently-cited. Toadspike [Talk] 08:17, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment This doesn't seem to be in the news outside of Switzerland and so the readership for all three articles is tiny. If we give every member of the council WP:ITN/R status, then Switzerland is given seven times the representation of other countries. But it does seem a sensible stable system compared to the risks of having a single supreme leader. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:36, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The WP:ITNELECTIONS subsection of ITN/R specifically outlines that elections of new members into the Swiss Federal Council meet the requirements. The 2022 elections, for example, also got posted. If you wish to discuss a change for this guideline, this nomination is not the place. YuniToumei (talk) 09:17, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I will also note that Federal Councillors serve around 10 years on average, which means we post an election about every 1.5 years. This is not much more frequent than some other systems of government, and the frequency is further reduced by some elections filling more than one seat at once. Toadspike [Talk] 09:24, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose does a change of hands in a directorial republic really qualify for ITN?
675930s (talk) 11:32, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There's an exception in WP:ITNR about this: "elections of new members to the Federal Council, but not normally general elections of the Federal Council"; i.e. if all members were reelected, it's not ITNR. Howard the Duck (talk) 16:35, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This also seems to be a by-election (special election). I wonder when was the last time that happened? Howard the Duck (talk) 17:23, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per WP:ITNELECTIONS. The Swiss system is peculiar: the seven-member Federal Council is the collective head of state and government. By convention, members are reelected until they choose to resign. Therefore, the only election of political significance is the initial election of a new member. The general (re-)elections every four years are pro forma and not newsworthy, and neither is election to the rotating and purely ceremonial presidency. Sandstein 16:52, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Soft support a change in head of state is still noticeable, even if they're one of seven heads of state. Scuba 03:26, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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